There’s room for role models who make mistakes. There’s clearly room for role models who are made fun of at award shows, not that I necessarily enjoy being poked fun at! But that’s gonna happen to them too. Whether in a board meeting, or in school or on Facebook, where they’ll get humiliated publicly. And if I can say ‘yeah I’ve taken a few hits over the years and I’m still going, I’m still happy!’ Maybe that’s an example. It’s not just about standing on the top of a mountain with your hair blowing in the wind, looking fabulous.