There’s room for role models who make mistakes. There’s clearly room for role models who are made fun of at award shows, but that I necessarily enjoy being poked fun at! But that’s gonna happen to them too. Whether in a board meeting or in school or on Facebook, where they’ll get humiliated publicly. And if I can say, ‘Yeah, I’ve taken a few hits over the years and I’m still going, I’m still happy!’ maybe that’s an example. It’s not just about standing on top of a mountain with the wind blowing in your hair, looking fabulous.